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时间:  2011-5-26 01:58
作者: changkong2011     标题: TD LTE和Wimax区别有多大哈?多谢!

TD LTE和Wimax区别有多大哈?多谢!
时间:  2011-5-26 09:57
作者: whoratio

哈哈 我也想知道
时间:  2011-5-26 16:37
作者: csxzm

我也想知道
时间:  2011-5-30 09:40
作者: jeffyko

区别还是很大的,列举如下:
1,WiMax上行采用OFDMA,LTE上行使用SC-FDMA;
2,LTE支持15、20M带宽
3,频率复用方式不同:Wimax有PUSC with all 1x3x3,FFR 1x3x1(或2x3x2)等,LTE主要是SFR 1x3x1
4,HARQ软合并方式不同,wimax为CC合并,而lte为IR合并
5,导频密度不同
6,信道编码时的编码块大小不同,还有LTE会附加CRC,wimax没有
7,其他的大家补充。
时间:  2011-5-30 12:19
作者: illidan

6,信道编码时的编码块大小不同,还有LTE会附加CRC,wimax没有
那WiMaX的HARQ怎么知道传输块是否被正常接收了?
时间:  2011-5-30 12:49
作者: jeffyko

Wimax中如果编码块Turbo解码错误,就会丢掉该编码块;而LTE中附加CRC校验可以用于Turbo decoding early stop。
时间:  2011-5-30 14:50
作者: illidan

原帖由 jeffyko 于 2011-5-30 12:49 发表
Wimax中如果编码块Turbo解码错误,就会丢掉该编码块;而LTE中附加CRC校验可以用于Turbo decoding early stop。


LTE和UMTS中,都是先做完Turbo decoding,再来校验CRC(CRC本身也是Turbo编码器的原始输入)。怎么在Turbo解码中能能得到CRC呢?
时间:  2011-5-30 16:06
作者: jeffyko

去找找Turbo decoding early stop的相关资料看看吧。这个我就没什么研究了,呵呵
时间:  2011-5-30 17:33
作者: jeffyko

再次回复下illidan兄弟的问题。我又查了wimax和lte的相关材料:
1,LTE的CRC attachment其实有2步操作:一个是transport block的crc attachment,也即illidan兄弟说的,还有就是如果TB+CRC > 6144的话,会将TB分割成多个code block(编码块),并且对每个code block附加crc,这个是我说的wimax与lte区别的地方。
2,wimax采用cc合并,也会对burst(相当于lte的transport block)添加crc,但不会对FEC block(相当于lte的code block)添加crc。通过turbo decoding之后通过crc检错。
3,lte中对code block添加crc的原因,在<lte from theory to practice>一书中是这么写的,供参考:
The physical layer first attaches a 24-bit CRC to each TB received from the MAC layer.
This is used at the receiver to verify correct reception and to generate the HARQ ACK/NACK
feedback.
The TB is then segmented into ‘code blocks’ according to a rule which, given an arbitrary
TB size, is designed to minimize the number of filler bits needed to match the available QPP
sizes. 。。。
Following segmentation, a further 24-bit CRC is attached to each code block if the TB
was split into two or more code blocks. This code-block-level CRC can be utilized to devise
rules for early termination of the turbo decoding iterations to reduce decoding complexity. It
is worth noting that the polynomial used for the code-block-level CRC is different from the
polynomial used for the transport block CRC. This is a deliberate design feature in order to
avoid increasing the probability of failing to detect errors as a result of the use of individual
CRCs per code block; if all the code block CRCs pass, the decoder should still check the
transport block CRC, which, being based on a different polynomial, is likely to detect an
error which was not detected by a code-block CRC.




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